

How We Got Here


About the PODCAST
This podcast was born from pain, redemption, and the kind of friendship that makes space for truth. It’s a place where two men, shaped by loss and doubt, sit down to talk through the hard things—faith, grief, healing—and the unexpected grace that met them along the way. It’s not polished or scripted. It’s raw and honest, the kind of conversation that unfolds when you stop trying to impress and start telling the truth.
Awkward Conversations is exactly that—unfiltered, sometimes uncomfortable, but always real. One of us let go of belief. The other came close to losing his life. Now we’re walking through the slow rebuild together, shaped by struggle, laughter, and the people who stayed close when it counted. We don’t have answers. But we do have each other, and we’re showing up with open hands and open hearts, ready to talk about all of it.



SEASON 1
EPISODE 05












